
GTM Crossroads Podcast Ep #10: Navigating CRM Choices: HubSpot vs Salesforce
In the tenth episode of GTM Crossroads, RevPartners CEO Brendan Tolleson sits down with OutboundSync Founder Harris Kenny, and Octave Co-founder and CEO Zach Vidibor to discuss the key aspects of building a tech startup, including choosing the right CRM, developing a product-led growth motion, and refining pricing strategies.
They also get into the real-world challenges with tools like Stripe, discuss how market uncertainty influences decision-making, and examine how AI can be used effectively to scale operations.
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5 Minute Rundown:
Octave, Outbound, and That Slack Ping
Harris: "Our outbound function is not our number one growth lever ironically, but it is important."
Outbound isn’t the top growth driver, but it’s still critical, especially when signup alerts from tools like Octave hit Slack and prompt action. Cold mass emails aren’t cutting it in a world of inbox fatigue and generic AI outreach.
GTM teams need smarter signals, personalized touchpoints, and a clearer handoff between product interest and pipeline conversion.
CRM Setup for Product-Led vs Enterprise Sales
Brendan: "HubSpot can do both a PLG motion and an enterprise deal motion… the difference is education, not functionality."
PLG startups don’t need to default to Salesforce for enterprise deals. HubSpot can support both product-led growth and high-touch motion when configured properly.
It’s not about which CRM has the right features, but rather understanding how to model lifecycle stages, lead objects, and usage signals inside a single system without splitting tech stacks.
Billing Infrastructure and SaaS Subscription Complexity
Zach: "Subscription management within Stripe is mind-boggling... and you can't make a single mistake."
Stripe looks polished, but managing SaaS subscriptions under the hood is a mess. Miss one step in your deal structure or co-sell flow, and it creates churn flags you can’t undo.
Stripe isn’t built for the nuance of ARR/MRR reconciliation or flexible contract workflows, and when things go sideways, the admin pain is real.
SaaS Pricing Overhaul and the Simplicity Advantage
Harris: "We changed the metric and boiled it down to how many emails you send and receive. Everything got easier."
Changing one metric transformed Octave’s sales cycle. Moving from ambiguous event counts and feature gates to a dead-simple usage metric, email volume, led to faster closes, higher conversion from the pricing page, and less confusion on calls.
The takeaway: charge for what users already understand, and the entire GTM engine runs smoother.
Focused GTM in a Noisy, Uncertain Market
Brendan: "The true unlock of AI is scale without constraints, but it still needs humans to deliver the impact."
When the market gets shaky, the smartest move is to go back to fundamentals. Instead of chasing trends or throwing tools at the problem, winning teams get laser-focused on retention, pipeline health, and customer fit.
GTM success in this environment means spotting real buying signals, tightening messaging, and doubling down on what’s working, especially when the hype around AI and automation can easily distract.
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